Comments on: Eminent Domain, We Need You! http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/ Sacramento News, Gossip & Snark Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:48:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: RunnerGirl http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-37640 RunnerGirl Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:40:36 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-37640 The Watt & El Camino Tower location will be a new Fresh & Easy Market: http://www.sacbee.com/103/story/745705.html The Watt & El Camino Tower location will be a new Fresh & Easy Market:
http://www.sacbee.com/103/story/745705.html

]]> By: NotMalibuBarbie http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36709 NotMalibuBarbie Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:49:34 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36709 FYI: Supercuts has now moved into the old Tower of Books locale on Watt... See, eminent domain may not be necessary. We can have "Supercuts" for hair, "DermaCuts" for skin peels; and "BrisCuts" for circumcisions. Who said Watt Avenue and El Camino had to be a wasteland? FYI: Supercuts has now moved into the old Tower of Books locale on Watt… See, eminent domain may not be necessary. We can have “Supercuts” for hair, “DermaCuts” for skin peels; and “BrisCuts” for circumcisions. Who said Watt Avenue and El Camino had to be a wasteland?

]]> By: Big Pharma http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36706 Big Pharma Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:03:14 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36706 I am here to offer you a chill pill. I am here to offer you a chill pill.

]]> By: NotMalibuBarbie http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36703 NotMalibuBarbie Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:30:33 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36703 "and women in Newton, MA can now rest easy at night knowing their men won’t beat them due to latent rage in their baseball team’s futility." Sac-Eats..... I know this was meant as a lighthearted joke, but as someone who has been a past victim of domestic abuse... not so funny. But I'm sure you've already heard this from Mrs. Eats. “and women in Newton, MA can now rest easy at night knowing their men won’t beat them due to latent rage in their baseball team’s futility.”

Sac-Eats….. I know this was meant as a lighthearted joke, but as someone who has been a past victim of domestic abuse… not so funny. But I’m sure you’ve already heard this from Mrs. Eats.

]]> By: sac-eats http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36672 sac-eats Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:33:53 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36672 Angela, a) Thanks to your family's sacrifice, the Boston Red Sox have won two World Series titles and women in Newton, MA can now rest easy at night knowing their men won't beat them due to latent rage in their baseball team's futility. b) The reason the Pilgrims left England was because nobody could put up with their sanctimonious crap anymore. Angela,
a) Thanks to your family’s sacrifice, the Boston Red Sox have won two World Series titles and women in Newton, MA can now rest easy at night knowing their men won’t beat them due to latent rage in their baseball team’s futility.
b) The reason the Pilgrims left England was because nobody could put up with their sanctimonious crap anymore.

]]> By: NotMalibuBarbie http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36647 NotMalibuBarbie Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:19:32 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36647 FYI: as someone who has also been personally involved in eminent domain, there are usually months, if not years, of notice that the action is being pursued and personal notice is given to all residents being affected. Given that Florida is inherently a crooked state (or does anyone remember the Bush/Gore election?) where developers have stacked the deck and have govt. folks in their pockets (my ex's father was a prominent developer of golf resort subdivisions, and he had quite a few stories) it is possible that for you the system did not work there in Florida the way it usually does here in CA. In my case, the City of Citrus Heights bought the duplex my g/f and I were renting, along with about 30 other properties, to widen Greenback Lane. The project was actually in the public interest, given the number of accidents that occur on that street due to overcrowding and people driving like maniacs trying to pass one another. We knew it was coming for about 12 months prior to our move; there were also a number of public hearings, and so the plan was modified due to input from the neighbors. The owner of the property where we lived received about $80,000 over market value (I saw the escrow documents) and we received about $34,000, plus moving expenses, since finding a comparable dwelling -- a three bedroom duplex -- based on our combined income (she had cancer was unable to work) would be an economic hardship. So in my case, it worked out fine, and there certainly was plenty of warning to us and to everyone else being relocated. Another example of "good" emininent domain are some of the properties in Oak Park (liquor stores that were havens for gangbanger and drugdealers) that were taken over by the City of Sacramento, through the use of emininent domain and either demolished or sold to new, more responsible owners. There are always bad stories we hear about emininent domain, but there are good ones too. FYI: as someone who has also been personally involved in eminent domain, there are usually months, if not years, of notice that the action is being pursued and personal notice is given to all residents being affected. Given that Florida is inherently a crooked state (or does anyone remember the Bush/Gore election?) where developers have stacked the deck and have govt. folks in their pockets (my ex’s father was a prominent developer of golf resort subdivisions, and he had quite a few stories) it is possible that for you the system did not work there in Florida the way it usually does here in CA.

In my case, the City of Citrus Heights bought the duplex my g/f and I were renting, along with about 30 other properties, to widen Greenback Lane. The project was actually in the public interest, given the number of accidents that occur on that street due to overcrowding and people driving like maniacs trying to pass one another. We knew it was coming for about 12 months prior to our move; there were also a number of public hearings, and so the plan was modified due to input from the neighbors. The owner of the property where we lived received about $80,000 over market value (I saw the escrow documents) and we received about $34,000, plus moving expenses, since finding a comparable dwelling — a three bedroom duplex — based on our combined income (she had cancer was unable to work) would be an economic hardship. So in my case, it worked out fine, and there certainly was plenty of warning to us and to everyone else being relocated.

Another example of “good” emininent domain are some of the properties in Oak Park (liquor stores that were havens for gangbanger and drugdealers) that were taken over by the City of Sacramento, through the use of emininent domain and either demolished or sold to new, more responsible owners.

There are always bad stories we hear about emininent domain, but there are good ones too.

]]> By: Angela http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36645 Angela Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:57:25 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-36645 Eminent Domain is a very unfair law because of its creation and relationship to the state....big brother $$$$$ When the Pilgrims moved here from England, they moved to get away from the King and his laws. They left most of his laws behind. Eminent domain is one of the laws that they did not leave behind. Eminent domain may need to be used in a dire emergency, when there is no other way around the issue, but when they use this law as a "tool" to get property for pennies on the dollar and use strong arm tactics,abusing their power in doing so, the law is being misused and abused. More and more people are being abused under this law. In 1993, my husband, two young children and I were put out of our beautiful home into the street without another home to go to, court ordered to get out by the judge who took our home to begin with. One hundred and ten homes were taken to enable the City of Fort Myers, Florida to put in a spring training facility for the Boston Red Sox. We were railroaded by a crooked political system and severely abused. Sincerely, Angela Odessaday@aol.com Eminent Domain is a very unfair law because of its creation and relationship to the state….big brother $$$$$

When the Pilgrims moved here from England, they moved to get away from the King and his laws. They left most of his laws behind. Eminent domain is one of the laws that they did not leave behind.
Eminent domain may need to be used in a dire emergency, when there is no other way around the issue, but when they use this law as a “tool” to get property for pennies on the dollar and use strong arm tactics,abusing their power in doing so, the law is being misused and abused.
More and more people are being abused under this law.
In 1993, my husband, two young children and I were put out of our beautiful home into the street without another home to go to, court ordered to get out by the judge who took our home to begin with. One hundred and ten homes were taken to enable the City of Fort Myers, Florida to put in a spring training facility for the Boston Red Sox. We were railroaded by a crooked political system and severely abused. Sincerely, Angela
Odessaday@aol.com

]]> By: runnergirl http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-34205 runnergirl Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:26:38 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-34205 This could also be the perfect spot for the veggie/vegan casual diner-type place that is lacking and would certainly be popular. It would be a nice complement to the Hof Brau (try the turkey sandwich with the roll dunked in au jus with a side of German potato salad.) This could also be the perfect spot for the veggie/vegan casual diner-type place that is lacking and would certainly be popular. It would be a nice complement to the Hof Brau (try the turkey sandwich with the roll dunked in au jus with a side of German potato salad.)

]]> By: sac-eats http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-34204 sac-eats Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:19:08 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-34204 Also, here's the shortlist of tenants that I would love to see at the old Tower spot: 1. Either of the Berkeley music behemoths, Rsputin Records or Amoeba Music. 2. Adult playground Dave & Buster's 3. It's about time we had some gelato in the AA. Bring it on, and since the beauty supply joint is closing, the small retail spaces between the two Tower stores is wide open. 4. Chicago Fire or equivalent pizza purveyor. 5. Or, if you want to think way way outside the box, how 'bout a small two screen art house movie theater, with one screen dedicated to pre 1980 films. Also, here’s the shortlist of tenants that I would love to see at the old Tower spot:

1. Either of the Berkeley music behemoths, Rsputin Records or Amoeba Music.

2. Adult playground Dave & Buster’s

3. It’s about time we had some gelato in the AA. Bring it on, and since the beauty supply joint is closing, the small retail spaces between the two Tower stores is wide open.

4. Chicago Fire or equivalent pizza purveyor.

5. Or, if you want to think way way outside the box, how ’bout a small two screen art house movie theater, with one screen dedicated to pre 1980 films.

]]> By: sac-eats http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-34203 sac-eats Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:12:39 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-34203 This here "popular local blog" got a mention from "popular local columnist" and JEOPARDY! alumn, Carlos Alcala in his Arden/Arcade nieghborhood column. http://www.sacbee.com/arden/story/619574.html This here “popular local blog” got a mention from “popular local columnist” and JEOPARDY! alumn, Carlos Alcala in his Arden/Arcade nieghborhood column.
http://www.sacbee.com/arden/story/619574.html

]]> By: adamant http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-33114 adamant Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:42:27 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-33114 What does this have to do with thai soup? What does this have to do with thai soup?

]]> By: TalkingPocket http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32929 TalkingPocket Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:59:48 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32929 is watt ave supposed to be pretty? is watt ave supposed to be pretty?

]]> By: May the fleas of a thousand camels... http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32882 May the fleas of a thousand camels... Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:28:53 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32882 I didn't write "tell your counselperson" and if I did I would have spelled "council" right. I wrote "listen and see what's really going on" i.e. be informed instead of ignorant. The devil is in the details (and in other places..that's why you need Christ our Lord and the virgin Mary and all the saints too). I didn’t write “tell your counselperson” and if I did I would have spelled “council” right. I wrote “listen and see what’s really going on” i.e. be informed instead of ignorant. The devil is in the details (and in other places..that’s why you need Christ our Lord and the virgin Mary and all the saints too).

]]> By: Turty Squip http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32873 Turty Squip Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:16:51 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32873 Bahahaha- "tell your counselperson." Yeah- and write your senator while you are at it. Maybe protest out in front too? Oh- and don't forget to "boycott" the owner's other businesses! You'd have kids and send then through 15 years of grad school before you saw any results that way. I'm not saying burning the place down is the RIGHT (or legal) thing to do, but its the only thing that will cause any changes within the next 10 years-- other than you buying the place and fixing it up yourself. Which is the socailly responsable thing to advocate. Ergo, you should buy it. How 'bout a Starbucks and "Nails by Brandi"? Bahahaha- “tell your counselperson.” Yeah- and write your senator while you are at it. Maybe protest out in front too? Oh- and don’t forget to “boycott” the owner’s other businesses! You’d have kids and send then through 15 years of grad school before you saw any results that way. I’m not saying burning the place down is the RIGHT (or legal) thing to do, but its the only thing that will cause any changes within the next 10 years– other than you buying the place and fixing it up yourself. Which is the socailly responsable thing to advocate. Ergo, you should buy it. How ’bout a Starbucks and “Nails by Brandi”?

]]> By: sac-eats http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32868 sac-eats Mon, 24 Dec 2007 01:15:37 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32868 See, was that so hard? You could have just said that to begin with. Merry Christmas to you too, too. May Christ, our Lord, bless you in this our celebration of his birth by the virgin Mary, with patience, tolerance, good-judgment, and regular bathing. See, was that so hard? You could have just said that to begin with.
Merry Christmas to you too, too. May Christ, our Lord, bless you in this our celebration of his birth by the virgin Mary, with patience, tolerance, good-judgment, and regular bathing.

]]> By: merry christmas to you AND happy new year! http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32860 merry christmas to you AND happy new year! Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:51:59 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32860 Why don't you start by attending City Council meetings or Co. Board meetings http://www.saccountytv.saccounty.net/index.htm Sit back, listen, and see what's really going on, just like www.eyesofargus.net I'd suggest you consider more than one point of view (ie www.saveourfarm.com and Kelo vs. City of New London). Happy Holidays! Why don’t you start by attending City Council meetings or Co. Board meetings http://www.saccountytv.saccounty.net/index.htm
Sit back, listen, and see what’s really going on, just like http://www.eyesofargus.net
I’d suggest you consider more than one point of view (ie http://www.saveourfarm.com and Kelo vs. City of New London). Happy Holidays!

]]> By: sac-eats http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32851 sac-eats Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:03:15 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32851 What do you suggest as the best solution to the problem then? Please share, oh wise oracle of EmDo! What do you suggest as the best solution to the problem then? Please share, oh wise oracle of EmDo!

]]> By: merry christmas to you too http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32808 merry christmas to you too Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:40:14 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32808 sac-eats, what the hell do you know about eminent domain?? Why don't you learn more about it before you proclaim so loudly that it is the absolute best solution to your problem. sac-eats, what the hell do you know about eminent domain??

Why don’t you learn more about it before you proclaim so loudly that it is the absolute best solution to your problem.

]]> By: Lynn http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32791 Lynn Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:28:34 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32791 Many, (or most), specialty stores sell things that people can do without... crafts, sporting goods, (even records and CDs)... Stores such as Wal-Mart and Target sell a lot of junk, but they sell some useful things too. I guess eventually some store will be there... which will sell a lot of junk that people can buy and stuff into their closets. Many, (or most), specialty stores sell things that people can do without… crafts, sporting goods, (even records and CDs)… Stores such as Wal-Mart and Target sell a lot of junk, but they sell some useful things too. I guess eventually some store will be there… which will sell a lot of junk that people can buy and stuff into their closets.

]]> By: John L http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32764 John L Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:25:21 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32764 The other ED area. Have you seen the paddy wagon?......... .....Comments? ;-) The other ED area. Have you seen the paddy wagon?………
…..Comments? ;-)

]]> By: NotMalibuBarbie http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32726 NotMalibuBarbie Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:18:11 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32726 psst... it is County-From-Hell area...no city jurisdiction. (And I know... I spent many of my juvenile years hanging around "Tower of Posters" watching posters ebb and flow after injesting various marijuana-influenced substances.) In other words, unless you get the media involved (flashes her own tarnished CSUS journalism degree from 1983 in dismay) no one will get involved. My suggestion is to contact one of the columnists, or one of the editorial staff (Ginger Rutland is a good bet) and see what you can stir up.... psst… it is County-From-Hell area…no city jurisdiction. (And I know… I spent many of my juvenile years hanging around “Tower of Posters” watching posters ebb and flow after injesting various marijuana-influenced substances.) In other words, unless you get the media involved (flashes her own tarnished CSUS journalism degree from 1983 in dismay) no one will get involved. My suggestion is to contact one of the columnists, or one of the editorial staff (Ginger Rutland is a good bet) and see what you can stir up….

]]> By: Turty Squip http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32695 Turty Squip Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:09:37 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32695 What Fauxpaws said. Everything else will only take years and years. You could always call code enforcement, or file your own nuisance suit against the owners. What Fauxpaws said. Everything else will only take years and years. You could always call code enforcement, or file your own nuisance suit against the owners.

]]> By: WestCoaster http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32666 WestCoaster Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:06:20 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32666 Hey, Mr. Eats, I think it would make a dandy eating establishment. Think of all the creativity you and Mrs. Easts could apply. And, if all else fails, it would be nice to bring an ExtremePizza to the neighborhood. Hey,
Mr. Eats, I think it would make a dandy eating establishment. Think of all the creativity you and Mrs. Easts could apply.
And, if all else fails, it would be nice to bring an ExtremePizza to the neighborhood.

]]> By: Harry Paratestes http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32643 Harry Paratestes Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:34:21 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32643 FP: You rang? That's what we call "Greek Lightning" FP: You rang? That’s what we call “Greek Lightning”

]]> By: RonTopofIt http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32641 RonTopofIt Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:11:52 +0000 http://sacrag.com/2007/12/eminent-domain-we-need-you/#comment-32641 Please do something with that space if not only to remove the cliche hybrid, "All things must pass", sign out front. Hmmm, that's not a bad idea. I wonder if www.clichehybrid.com is available. People love anything hybrid. I could author a blog about it. "You can lead an old dog to water, but you can't make him do new tricks" Please do something with that space if not only to remove the cliche hybrid, “All things must pass”, sign out front.

Hmmm, that’s not a bad idea. I wonder if http://www.clichehybrid.com is available. People love anything hybrid. I could author a blog about it. “You can lead an old dog to water, but you can’t make him do new tricks”

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