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		<title>By: adamant</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38728</link>
		<dc:creator>adamant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we don't hear from melly again, we'll know that the hobo's got her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we don&#8217;t hear from melly again, we&#8217;ll know that the hobo&#8217;s got her.</p>
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		<title>By: Melly</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38677</link>
		<dc:creator>Melly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am just going to have to get on light rail myself and stop relying on heresay.  I will do it soon and report back.  I'll try it on the weekend, a weekday, and at night...to get a bigger picture.

I've been wrong many times in my life..this could just be another one of those times.

Signed,

Riff Raff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am just going to have to get on light rail myself and stop relying on heresay.  I will do it soon and report back.  I&#8217;ll try it on the weekend, a weekday, and at night&#8230;to get a bigger picture.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wrong many times in my life..this could just be another one of those times.</p>
<p>Signed,</p>
<p>Riff Raff</p>
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		<title>By: stickie</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38676</link>
		<dc:creator>stickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen more instances of people being bullied on light rail by a security guard than by a passenger.

The one time I witnessed a problem with a passenger, he was a drunk asshole who was harassing his lady, and when she went and hid behind some other passengers, he turned his attention to another male passenger.  The riders ganged up on the perp (verbally, not physically) and forced him off the train without his lady and called the police.  I was proud of my fellow riders that day.

My biggest complaint about riders is that they leave their trash, mostly fast food containers.  I am hesitant to point this out, but I personally notice teenagers are the worst offenders.

I ride almost every day at all hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen more instances of people being bullied on light rail by a security guard than by a passenger.</p>
<p>The one time I witnessed a problem with a passenger, he was a drunk asshole who was harassing his lady, and when she went and hid behind some other passengers, he turned his attention to another male passenger.  The riders ganged up on the perp (verbally, not physically) and forced him off the train without his lady and called the police.  I was proud of my fellow riders that day.</p>
<p>My biggest complaint about riders is that they leave their trash, mostly fast food containers.  I am hesitant to point this out, but I personally notice teenagers are the worst offenders.</p>
<p>I ride almost every day at all hours.</p>
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		<title>By: wburg</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38660</link>
		<dc:creator>wburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melly: Thanks for responding--I tend to respond to several people at once when I jump in on a thread like this, sorry if you got nudged by it. 

I work with the homeless too, and don't get a lot of negative comments about light rail. I also ride light rail and buses pretty often (several times a week) and they can get pretty crowded--commute hours, obviously, but I have been on evening trains on the weekend and there are people on the train then too. Generally it seems pretty safe to me.

Having security is important to people's peace of mind, but it seems like a lot of people's fears about public transportation are more perception than reality. 

Like that guy who shot at a guy's car, then got on light rail, then got arrested (last week.) Think about it: He shot at the guy who was in a car, putting the driver's life in danger. On the light rail he stashed his shotgun and apparently didn't bother anybody, and because he appeared on a video monitor he was caught BECAUSE HE GOT ON LIGHT RAIL. People's responses to this incident? "Oh dear, light rail is totally dangerous, I'm staying in my car!" Even though it was the person in the car who was shot at--and if the perp hadn't taken light rail he wouldn't have been nabbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melly: Thanks for responding&#8211;I tend to respond to several people at once when I jump in on a thread like this, sorry if you got nudged by it. </p>
<p>I work with the homeless too, and don&#8217;t get a lot of negative comments about light rail. I also ride light rail and buses pretty often (several times a week) and they can get pretty crowded&#8211;commute hours, obviously, but I have been on evening trains on the weekend and there are people on the train then too. Generally it seems pretty safe to me.</p>
<p>Having security is important to people&#8217;s peace of mind, but it seems like a lot of people&#8217;s fears about public transportation are more perception than reality. </p>
<p>Like that guy who shot at a guy&#8217;s car, then got on light rail, then got arrested (last week.) Think about it: He shot at the guy who was in a car, putting the driver&#8217;s life in danger. On the light rail he stashed his shotgun and apparently didn&#8217;t bother anybody, and because he appeared on a video monitor he was caught BECAUSE HE GOT ON LIGHT RAIL. People&#8217;s responses to this incident? &#8220;Oh dear, light rail is totally dangerous, I&#8217;m staying in my car!&#8221; Even though it was the person in the car who was shot at&#8211;and if the perp hadn&#8217;t taken light rail he wouldn&#8217;t have been nabbed.</p>
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		<title>By: RunnerGirl</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38653</link>
		<dc:creator>RunnerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Plumwin &#38; Adamant both on the same day!  We've missed you two! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Plumwin &amp; Adamant both on the same day!  We&#8217;ve missed you two! <img src='http://sacrag.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: plumwin</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38651</link>
		<dc:creator>plumwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too!  I bet she'll give us all a lesson on what the seats are made of or what type of trees are planted at various stops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too!  I bet she&#8217;ll give us all a lesson on what the seats are made of or what type of trees are planted at various stops.</p>
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		<title>By: runnergirl</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38649</link>
		<dc:creator>runnergirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am eagerly awaiting Lynn's input on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am eagerly awaiting Lynn&#8217;s input on this!</p>
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		<title>By: adamant</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38646</link>
		<dc:creator>adamant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with sacramento's light rail system is that it has 18.5% more hobo than portland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with sacramento&#8217;s light rail system is that it has 18.5% more hobo than portland.</p>
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		<title>By: Melly</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38645</link>
		<dc:creator>Melly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself riff raff, I don't consider myself better than anyone else.  BTW, I have often invited down &#38; out people over to dinner which included kids from the orphanage I worked at, hitch-hikers, and homeless folks and their kids.  I appreciate Sac for its diversity..it's the one thing about Portland I don't like, lack of it.

It was not I who suggested a cop on every car..that IS ridiculous.  

In my "former life" here in Sac, I worked exclusively with the homeless. They were scared shitless to ride light rail. They were often robbed, teased,  and sometimes beaten.  I heard it over and over from a diverse population of moms, dads, kids, grandparents...and since they had to use light rail, they said they'd only do it before dark.

That's what I am talking about and that is why I made the commment.  When I used it in Portland, it was after a night baseball game, the cars were packed, and everyone seemed to be having a great time.  That's all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself riff raff, I don&#8217;t consider myself better than anyone else.  BTW, I have often invited down &amp; out people over to dinner which included kids from the orphanage I worked at, hitch-hikers, and homeless folks and their kids.  I appreciate Sac for its diversity..it&#8217;s the one thing about Portland I don&#8217;t like, lack of it.</p>
<p>It was not I who suggested a cop on every car..that IS ridiculous.  </p>
<p>In my &#8220;former life&#8221; here in Sac, I worked exclusively with the homeless. They were scared shitless to ride light rail. They were often robbed, teased,  and sometimes beaten.  I heard it over and over from a diverse population of moms, dads, kids, grandparents&#8230;and since they had to use light rail, they said they&#8217;d only do it before dark.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I am talking about and that is why I made the commment.  When I used it in Portland, it was after a night baseball game, the cars were packed, and everyone seemed to be having a great time.  That&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: RunnerGirl</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38643</link>
		<dc:creator>RunnerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 on wburg's comment

Do you mean safety as in crashes and the like, or safety regarding other patrons?  There's a difference between being safe and being surrounded by people you likely would not invite over to your house for dinner (which kind of goes along with having a growing and diverse population.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 on wburg&#8217;s comment</p>
<p>Do you mean safety as in crashes and the like, or safety regarding other patrons?  There&#8217;s a difference between being safe and being surrounded by people you likely would not invite over to your house for dinner (which kind of goes along with having a growing and diverse population.)</p>
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		<title>By: wburg</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38630</link>
		<dc:creator>wburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Light rail in Sacramento is safe, fast, and convenient...and it is eco-friendly. Portland's light-rail system works pretty much the same way. They have three lines where we have two, and theirs run a little longer (4:30 AM to midnight) and in their downtown they have streetcars and we don't, but in most respects they work exactly the same.

Portland also uses the same fare system as our light rail system, and I consider it pretty unlikely that they have police on every car.

So, I'd ask you, Melly: What makes Sacramento's light-rail system different than Portland's?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light rail in Sacramento is safe, fast, and convenient&#8230;and it is eco-friendly. Portland&#8217;s light-rail system works pretty much the same way. They have three lines where we have two, and theirs run a little longer (4:30 AM to midnight) and in their downtown they have streetcars and we don&#8217;t, but in most respects they work exactly the same.</p>
<p>Portland also uses the same fare system as our light rail system, and I consider it pretty unlikely that they have police on every car.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;d ask you, Melly: What makes Sacramento&#8217;s light-rail system different than Portland&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: CoolDMZ</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38626</link>
		<dc:creator>CoolDMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Light rail to airport is apparently "not about light rail to the airport... It's about serving the downtown railyard."

WTF!!!???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light rail to airport is apparently &#8220;not about light rail to the airport&#8230; It&#8217;s about serving the downtown railyard.&#8221;</p>
<p>WTF!!!???</p>
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		<title>By: badhairday</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38605</link>
		<dc:creator>badhairday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C.C. Meyers for Mayor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C.C. Meyers for Mayor!</p>
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		<title>By: Turty Squip</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38572</link>
		<dc:creator>Turty Squip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making the light rail safe?!?  What- you want to charge people MONEY to ride it, thereby keeping the riff raff out?  Or worse yet, have THE MAN station agents (aka "Police") on each car to spy on riders?  Ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making the light rail safe?!?  What- you want to charge people MONEY to ride it, thereby keeping the riff raff out?  Or worse yet, have THE MAN station agents (aka &#8220;Police&#8221;) on each car to spy on riders?  Ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Melly</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38570</link>
		<dc:creator>Melly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ride light rail if I thought it was safe. I hope that is in his plans..making it safe so everyone [those who don't have to but choose to] would be more willing to use it.

While in Portland, I've used their light rail system and it is wonderful. It is used by lots of people and it is safe, fast, and convenient..and it is eco-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ride light rail if I thought it was safe. I hope that is in his plans..making it safe so everyone [those who don't have to but choose to] would be more willing to use it.</p>
<p>While in Portland, I&#8217;ve used their light rail system and it is wonderful. It is used by lots of people and it is safe, fast, and convenient..and it is eco-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Turty Squip</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38566</link>
		<dc:creator>Turty Squip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Wiley is talking about rickshaws:  A) Talk about backbone.  2) Not sexy (unless its enclosed and you have your honey in the back).  C)  Walking distance?  EVERYTHING is walking distance in a rickshaw!  4)  Environmentally friendly ('cept the poop in the streets of course, but you get 'em a bag and they just empty it at the end of the day).  What more could you want!?  Plus, if done right, solves the "homeless people not working" problem at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Wiley is talking about rickshaws:  A) Talk about backbone.  2) Not sexy (unless its enclosed and you have your honey in the back).  C)  Walking distance?  EVERYTHING is walking distance in a rickshaw!  4)  Environmentally friendly (&#8217;cept the poop in the streets of course, but you get &#8216;em a bag and they just empty it at the end of the day).  What more could you want!?  Plus, if done right, solves the &#8220;homeless people not working&#8221; problem at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: RunnerGirl</title>
		<link>http://sacrag.com/2008/03/smep-and-other-transportation-news/#comment-38556</link>
		<dc:creator>RunnerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about hydrofoils for our rivers, canals, sloughs, and streams?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about hydrofoils for our rivers, canals, sloughs, and streams?</p>
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